Wednesday, June 12, 2024

reddit v-22 osprey (????)

 https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/k00c80/are_v22_ospreys_as_bad_as_their_reputation/

I pilot V-22s for a living if you have any follow up questions but this is the best I can do on mobile:

  1.  It has pros and cons. Not as much space as a C-17, but more space than a Blackhawk. I can pick you up from wherever like a helicopter, but also have the performance to drop you at whatever altitude and speed you want. It’s closer to the best of both worlds rather than the worst.

  2.  At sea level it’s more common to run out of space to put stuff than it is to hit the weight limit; 20,000lbs is 80+ troops with gear. As you go up in altitude you have to trade fuel weight for cargo but air refueling is much easier than helicopters. That’s assuming there is no runway, because if there is you can take off at like a plane and weight isn’t really a limiting factor again.

  3.  It will out perform any other rotor wing platform in adverse weather (including the 160th birds). I have personally flown through sandstorms, icing, fog, 50 mph wind shear, and picked my way through countless thunderstorms using the onboard weather radar. The icing system is fragile but when it works it’s just as capable as the best fixed wing platforms out there.

  4.  This one is fair, but it’s improving all the time and government logistics is half to blame here at least.

  5.  People say this crap all the time while being blissfully ignorant of all the redundancies built in. I have 3 hydraulic systems, 2 engines, 4 generators(+battery), 2 rudders, 3 flight control computers and I only need 1 of each of those to keep flying. So forgive me when I roll my eyes when some random dude says “iT cAnt EVen AutoROtatE” when he flies single engine helicopters over mountains where you wouldn’t be able to autorotate anyways.


Dareelbomb259
3y ago
Edited 3y ago
First off, sorry I'm late. I was literally going through my saved posts and found this lol. For reference, I spent 4 years as a CV-22 Crew Chief.

  1.  Jumping from it as a helicopter (i.e. fast roping) isn't much different, except that the downwash is greater so the SF guys need two boys to act as anchors for the rope instead of the normal one. As for jumping in airplane mode, I can't recall but they can only do either HALO/HAHO or static jumps. I believe static though because they Osprey can only go to 25,000 feet. So a C-130 or C-17 would be used for that.

  2.  If you compare it to other VTOL platforms, in most cases the CV-22 at least can carry more. Not only that, but it can get it there faster, and fly farther.

  3.  I agree. I wouldn't want to fly any aircraft in adverse conditions. But, if I was to, there are other aircraft I would rather fly than the CV-22.

  4.  Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. They are ALWAYS breaking. The maintenance guides are contradictory. The Air Force for some reason has to order any replacement parts through the Navy. So not only are the manufacturers struggling to keep up with everyone, but we have to go to the Navy to get our parts. Not us as maintainers (that's taken care of elsewhere), but it means we're constantly out of stock world-wide (for the Air Force) on major parts. If the mission is desperate enough, sometimes we would have to take a part from the nearest Marine base with an IOU. Though the standard was to canibalize the part from a Phase aircraft—basically swapping them and putting the new one on the Phase aircraft when it arrives. But enough about the rant. Yes, unfortunately when the engineers were building this thing they had to throw everything they could at it, to the point that maintenance was not a consideration in many decisions.

  5.  Yes, we can both agree that in an emergency it goes from Jack of all trades to master of none. And I have no evidence in front of me, but I would be willing to bet that the Osprey is an averagely safe aircraft. Yes, 1 out of 3 aircraft that leave on a sortie return early because of maintenance problems. But they were able to make it back. From a guy who spent four years working on the damn things, there is a backup to the backup on nearly everything. The engines are even interconnected, so if one dies you can still get home. I don't know about the Marine's record (the Navy I'm pretty sure is clear), but the Air Force has only had two crashes. One during a deployment, which was a mixture of enemy fire and pilot error. And another, which was deemed pilot error (Vortex Ring State is an interesting learn). Ultimately, it's arguable whether any branch is using the Osprey to its full potential. That said, the Osprey absolutely has its problems with maintenance and that extra attention required of the pilots. But it is uniquely qualified, one that will be remembered for a long time (hopefully not in infamy but probably not), and one that our allies love and our enemies hate more. Edit: also, the point of the aircraft for the Air Force is an interesting story. Initially, it was supposed to replace the HH-60 to do CSAR. I mean, think about it: long range, large payload capacity, and VTOL capabilities?? Well, unfortunately, it's not very good in exposed and contested environments (it is very brittle, very loud, and has a very slow approach). So rather than have it as a dedicated CSAR aircraft, they kept the HH-60 and just kept upgrading it. They still use the Osprey for CSAR, but only in areas they know are safe Meanwhile the mission they found for the Osprey was infil and exfil of SOF units such as SEALs, Delta, Rangers, etc.

HH-60


popmech v-22 osprey [2012]

 https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a7883/the-ospreys-real-problem-isnt-safety-its-money-8347657/

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The Osprey's Real Problem Isn't Safety—It's Money
No other modern military aircraft evokes the reaction generated by the Osprey. It's an engineering model and a target for abuse—and when it fails, as it did in yesterday's non-lethal crash that injured five Air Force crew members, the critics pile on. But this hand-wringing misses the true debate over the V-22. The Osprey a capable aircraft that has had only one fatal crash in combat and is among the Marines' safest rotorcraft, but the battle to prove that it is affordable is far from over.

BY JOE PAPPALARDO
PUBLISHED: JUN 13, 2012


A Legacy of Fixes
The Osprey is not the same aircraft that was tested decades ago. Engineers have solved many of the problems that gave the aircraft its bad reputation.

HINKY HYDRAULICS

Problem: Titanium hydraulic lines leading to the nacelles used to rub against wire harnesses. This created holes in the lines that caused fires; in 2000 one such fire contributed to a crash that killed four Marines.

Update: By 2005, the problematic hydraulic lines had been rerouted. They are now easier to access for evaluation and repair.


DANGEROUS DESCENTS

Problem: Rotorcraft that descend too quickly at slow speeds can lose lift if the rotor dips too far into its own downwash. This is called vortex ring state—an Osprey in VRS can lose lift on one side and flip; 19 Marines died in one such accident during the aircraft's development.

Update: Ospreys have audio and visual warnings that alert pilots when VRS conditions start to form. Pilots can tilt the rotors forward to escape, if the aircraft has enough altitude to maneuver.


UNDERARMED FOR HOT LZS

Problem: Ospreys fly into landing zones that are defended by enemy fire (hot LZs). Critics once complained about the craft's lack of armaments.

Update: Some Ospreys now have 7.62-mm GAU miniguns mounted in their bellies; they are remotely operated by the crew inside the aircraft.


Costs and Benefits
No other modern military aircraft evokes the reaction generated by the Osprey. It's an engineering marvel and a target of abuse. Crusading bloggers and politicians denigrate it; pilots and military brass say it is revolutionizing the concept of air mobility. Regardless, the aircraft is here to stay. The Marine Corps and the Air Force Special Operations Command both use Ospreys, and both will receive more for years to come.

With its ability to shape-shift, the V-22 is a complicated aircraft. Miles of hydraulic and fuel lines run through the wings, and the fuselage must be tough enough to resist deformation despite the movement of the two 971-pound engines. Adding to the challenge, the propellers must fold so the V-22 can operate from ships.

A litany of problems—leaking hydraulics, onboard fires, and in certain conditions, aeronautic instability—plagued the aircraft during its 30-year development. This troubled program took a human toll—30 Marines were killed in three crashes during testing. Engineers have systematically addressed the plane's design flaws (see "A Legacy of Fixes," page 82), but the media piled on to what they saw as an obvious villain; the abuse reached a peak in 2007, when a Time magazine cover story labeled the Osprey "A Flying Shame."

The stigma still lingers. In the past year the New York Times editorial board has denounced the V-22 as "accident-prone" and "unsafe." An April MV-22 crash during a training exercise in Morocco that killed two Marines will likely feed into this reputation.

But since its 2007 deployment the Osprey has proved to be safe while flying in some of the most inhospitable conditions imaginable. There has been only one fatal crash in combat: In 2010 in Afghanistan an Air Force CV-22 touched down short of its landing zone, hit a ditch, and flipped, killing four of the 20 aboard. "Over 10 years, Ospreys have been the Corps' safest combat rotorcraft," says Richard Whittle, author of The Dream Machine: The Untold History of the Notorious V-22 Osprey.

The advantages that the Osprey brings to the battlefield have been displayed during deployment. Not only can V-22s carry larger payloads, but they can also cover more than four times the distance of the Sea Knight. For the Marines and special operators who rely on the Osprey's speed, those are crucial capabilities.

In 2010, a helicopter was wrecked during a raid in Afghanistan, stranding dozens of special operations soldiers who came under attack from small arms and mortar fire. When other helicopters were turned back by dust storms and the high peaks of the Hindu Kush, two CV-22s made the 800-mile rescue, soaring 15,000 feet and over the mountains. The mission returned 32 U.S. personnel in less than 4 hours. A year later, an F-15 pilot who had crashed in Libya was rescued by MV-22s flying from an amphibious assault ship. The Marines returned the pilot to the vessel, 150 miles away, in just 30 minutes.

U.S. Air Force Maj. Brian Luce, a pilot with the 8th Special Operations Squadron, flew the Osprey in Afghanistan and saw firsthand how it turned doubters into converts. "Some of the guys have a little hesitancy," he says. "But then they ride with us and get from point A to point B in record time." Luce says mission planners and combat commanders have also learned to appreciate the Osprey's capabilities. "The range and speed of a CV-22 are phenomenal," he says. "They are realizing this and are adjusting their tactics and procedures."

Those benefits come at a steep price. The V-22's research and development program was supposed to cost just over $39 billion, but independent estimates predict that it will come to $56 billion—43 percent higher. This price tag—about $100 million per plane, including development costs—becomes a bull's-eye each time politicians look for budget cuts. The 2010 bipartisan deficit commission proposed termination of the Osprey in its list of suggested savings.

The White House's proposed 2013 budget trims 24 aircraft (from 122 to 98) over five years, saving $1.75 billion. But those orders could be reinstated during negotiations of the Pentagon's contract with Osprey maker Bell-Boeing. The fact that the Osprey has escaped the budget ax's deepest cuts confirms its improved reputation within the military.

Despite its successes, the V-22 still has something to prove. Critics have found another source of ammunition to aim at the hybrid aircraft that everyone loves to hate.


Late last year a report by the Pentagon's Office of Operational Test and Evaluation noted that from June 2007 to May 2010 the Marine Corps' Osprey mission-capable readiness was only 53 percent.

"It's tough [for maintainers] to keep them flying," says VMM-161's com mander, Lt. Col. Eric Gillard. "But people don't grasp that the V-22 is a leap ahead."


Ready Or Not
The same feats of engineering that make the Osprey such a game changer sap the aircraft's readiness for missions. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, a persistent Osprey critic, offered the following backhanded compliment last year as he lamented waste at the Pentagon from the floor of the Senate: "When it is not being repaired, the V-22 performs its missions impressively."

Maintainers point out that, compared with legacy systems, the Osprey is still new. There are decades of knowledge on how to best service an aircraft like the Sea Knight, which has flown since the 1960s. Not so the V-22. "It's a new airframe and not too many people have worked on it," says Master Sgt. Simon Smith, a CV-22 maintainer based at Hurlburt Field near Pensacola, Fla. "We're still in the middle of our learning curve."

He hustles, clipboard in hand, across the flight line at Hurlburt, home of Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC). He's a busy guy—he will leave home for predeployment training for Afghanistan the next day to supervise the maintenance of Ospreys used on recent missions. "No telling how long I'll be gone," he says. "My bag's always packed."

The temporary duty assignment will be his 30th in 19 years. "Every time we change places, the environment adds different stresses on the airframe," he says. "The dust in Afghanistan clumps in different places than the dust in Iraq." These conditions play hell with the Osprey's performance. McCain cites Pentagon records that tally the V-22 engines' service life at just over 200 hours in Afghanistan. The military estimated that figure to be 500 to 600 hours. The shortfall has more than doubled the cost per flying hour to over $10,000, compared with about $4600 per hour for the tandem-rotor CH-46 Sea Knight the Osprey was designed to replace, he said.

But those figures fail to account for the Osprey's speed and size. Whittle points to an internal Marine Corps analysis that crunches the numbers by passenger seats—12 for the Sea Knight at a cost of $3.17 per seat per mile versus $1.76 for the 24-seat Osprey.

Special operations pilots like Luce say the maintainers are getting better with experience and that combat deployments have sped up the learning process. AFSOC does not release readiness rates, but at Hurlburt Field the CV-22 has earned a reputation as an attention hog yet gets decent reviews for readiness. "During my last three-month deployment [to Afghanistan], we never had to cancel a mission for maintenance," Luce says. "The maintenance force is definitely maturing."

He says the Osprey's notoriety is caused in part by its stature. "The CV-22 is high-visibility, sort of the flagship for AFSOC," he says. "It costs a lot of money, so people want to see results."

The struggle between capability and cost doesn't look the same on a spreadsheet as it does from the cockpit or an isolated landing zone. The truth is somewhere in between: The Osprey may be too costly to keep, but it's becoming too useful to abandon.

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https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a7883/the-ospreys-real-problem-isnt-safety-its-money-8347657/

my career was done (v-22) [2012]


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https://www.wired.com/2012/10/air-force-silenced-general/

David Axe

Security
Oct 4, 2012 6:30 AM
General: 'My Career Was Done' When I Criticized Flawed Warplane
Don Harvel thought he was cruising to a well-deserved retirement after 35 years flying cargo planes for the U.S. Air Force. Then in the spring of 2010 he was tapped to investigate the fatal crash of a high-tech Air Force tiltrotor aircraft -- and everything changed.
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Don Harvel, near his home in Georgia.Photo: Kendrick Brinson/Wired
Don Harvel thought he was cruising to a well-deserved retirement after 35 years flying cargo planes for the U.S. Air Force. Then in the spring of 2010 he was tapped to investigate the fatal crash of a high-tech Air Force tiltrotor aircraft -- and everything changed.

What Harvel discovered about the controversial hybrid aircraft drew him into a battle of wills with his superiors at Air Force Special Operations Command. Harvel, then a brigadier general, uncovered evidence of mechanical problems -- and resulting safety woes -- in the V-22 Osprey, which takes off like a helicopter and flies like an airplane. These are issues the Pentagon has been eager to downplay. So when Harvel refused to alter his findings to match the Defense Department's expectations, he knew that was the final chapter of his decades-long military service. Harvel's long-planned retirement was held up for more than two years, effectively silencing him during a troubling chapter in the Osprey's often-troubled history.

"I turned [my report] in and I knew that my career was done," Harvel says.

Despite three decades of development costing billions of dollars, the V-22 is still not nearly as safe as its proponents insist. In the past year alone, the military has assigned full blame for two Osprey crashes -- one of them fatal -- on pilot error. Those calls were questionable, at best. The Pentagon and the V-22's manufacturers likewise dismissed concern over two emergency landings by stricken Ospreys. All the while, Harvel had to keep quiet.

No longer. In an exclusive interview, Harvel says the military is "trying to turn all eyes away" from the Osprey's ongoing safety woes. "Especially in Congress."

After all, Congress controls funding for the $36-billion V-22 program, and has the power to finance (or not) the U.S. Marines and Air Force as they work to more than triple their Osprey fleets. The military is beginning to rely on the temperamental but high-performance tiltrotors for a wider range of important missions; there's even talk of Ospreys hauling the White House entourage on presidential trips. The Pentagon has also laid out a controversial plan to base 24 Ospreys in Japan. The Defense Department insisted that the speedy, long-range tiltrotor is "critical" to its Pacific war plans, but Japanese officials have justifiably questioned the V-22's safety.

Harvel's retirement paperwork finally cleared a few weeks ago. Now, the former Texas Air National Guard C-130 pilot is free to publicly share his opinion about the Osprey: that it's "just not quite there yet." The two crashes and another incident this year are proof of that.

"We need to invest money to fix this thing or change the way we're operating it," Harvel says. But the Pentagon has other priorities, he adds. "One of the things that is most noticeable to me is the military trying to get the [Air Force] CV- and [Marine] MV-22 to the forefront to get as much positive publicity as possible."


Lead Investigator
On April 9, 2010, an Osprey assigned to Air Force Special Operations Command was preparing to drop off a squad of U.S. Army Rangers in southern Afghanistan when something went wrong. The tiltrotor was traveling at least 88 miles per hour — several times the recommended landing speed — when it smashed into the ground a quarter mile from the landing zone. Four people died.

A sudden tailwind could have been a factor, but there's another possible explanation: that the Osprey's engines had malfunctioned in mid-air. Video shot by an A-10 attack plane overhead showed puffs of exhaust coming from the V-22's nacelles, a sign that the crew was trying to restart non-working engines.

After a brief recovery operation, an A-10 bombed the wreckage to keep it out of militants' hands. The air strike destroyed the tiltrotor’s black box. That, plus memory loss by Brian Luce, the only survivor from the two-man cockpit, ensured that the crash investigation board would face a difficult task.

At the time, Harvel was a full-time airline pilot and part-time assistant to the chief of Air Force Special Operations Command. Since getting his pilot's wings in 1976, he had racked up an impressive 4,000 flight hours in OH-58 helicopters, T-37 and T-38 training jets and C-130s.

"I got a call from the vice commander [Lt. Gen. Kurt Cichowski] saying we're considering you for board president and asking if I would be willing take time off," Harvel says. "I had been to all the safety schools and said I would love to do that. I was familiar with the V-22 aircraft, having flown in the simulator a few times. They knew me at AFSOC and were comfortable with me -- that was a real big deal to them."

Harvel recruited a team of technical experts and requested permission to travel to Afghanistan; he was determined to see the wreckage for himself and talk to survivors while their memories were still fresh.


But Cichowski shot down the request. "He said 'you don't need to go to Afghanistan,'" Harvel recalls. "That was my first clue this wasn't going to be a standard investigation." But Harvel kept arguing for permission to travel and ultimately got the green light. In whirlwind six-day trip, Harvel and his team interviewed 100 witnesses to the crash and its aftermath.

Weighing all the evidence, Harvel's board concluded that, among 10 possible contributing factors, engine failure was the most likely cause of the crash. But after reviewing a draft of the report, Cichowski allegedly ordered Harvel to remove the reference to the engines. "I don't know why he ... would not keep an open mind," Harvel says. "I do know this would have brought the [V-22] weapon system under more scrutiny."

The Air Force insists Cichowski did not put pressure on Harvel. "Undue influence, real or perceived, by the convening authority or its staff is specifically prohibited by regulation," says Capt. Kristen Duncan, an AFSOC spokesperson. "The AIB operated autonomously throughout the investigation, and the command has full confidence in the integrity, veracity and due diligence of the Accident Investigation Board."

In any event, Harvel refused to alter the report. "I had planned to retire, anyhow," Harvel recalls, "so I expedited it. And said I was standing by to brief the families [of crash victims] and he [Cichowski] said, 'you're not going to do that.'" (Other Air Force officials talked to the families instead, Duncan says.)

Cichowski commissioned some Navy engineers to produce another crash report. The Navy investigators did not travel to Afghanistan. Harvel says the Air Force's official rebuttal to Harvel's report reflected Cichowski's pre-determined view.

Duncan says the Navy experts weighed additional evidence that became available after Harvel's investigation had closed. On that grounds, "the convening authority disagreed that engine power loss was supported by the greater weight of credible evidence," according to the rebuttal.

What explanation did Cichowski offer as an alternative? None, really. The investigative board "was unable to determine, by clear and convincing evidence, the cause of this mishap," the Air Force stated.

Harvel wanted to offer his opinion in public. But for more than two years, Harvel was stuck in a holding pattern, awaiting his retirement papers -- and anticipating the moment when he would be able to speak freely about the V-22.

Brig. Gen. Don Harvel (left) at his initial retirement ceremony in 2010.


In a Hurry
To be fair, Harvel says he is a fan of the concept behind the hybrid aircraft, which combines the range and cruising speed of a fixed-wing airplane with a helicopter's ability to take off and land in tight spaces. "I love what the V-22 is designed to do," Harvel says. But, he adds, the Osprey was "really rushed through testing and evaluation."

"Rushed" might not seem like the right word to describe any aspect of the V-22's development, which kicked off in the early 1980s and produced flyable prototypes as early as 1989. But that was the Osprey version 1.0, an overweight, devilishly complex and badly misunderstood aircraft -- and a widowmaker. Four Ospreys crashed between 1991 and 2000, killing 30 people.


The Pentagon sent manufacturers Bell and Boeing back to the drawing board. Engineers revamped the V-22's leaky hydraulics and installed new flight-control software to help handle the tiltrotor's tricky aerodynamics. In 2005, a new version of the Osprey debuted and quickly passed Pentagon test requirements. In 2007, the tiltrotor deployed to Iraq for its first wartime use. The Air Force and Marines together ordered more than 400 copies.

The new and improved V-22 went from final testing to combat in just two years. By Pentagon standards, that's fast.

It's this Osprey version 2.0, whose reputation the military is desperate to protect. The Marines describe the revamped tiltrotor as their "safest tactical rotorcraft" and offer up stats to prove it -- specifically, an official rate of serious flying accidents of just 1.3 per 100,000 flight hours, compared to 2.6 crashes per 100,000 hours for all other rotorcraft.

But the stats reflectaltered and miscategorized data. Engine fires clearly costing millions of dollars to fix were downgraded in the paperwork. One malfunction that resulted in a V-22 accidentally taking off uncommanded before crashing to the ground was labeled a ground incident and left off the record. Even leaving out the 1991-2000 crashes, the Osprey's crash rate before this year's accidents was roughly double the officially stated figure, making the V-22 no safer than the Marines' conventional helicopters and far, far more dangerous than its fixed-wing cargo planes.

And that's mostly due to inadequate testing, Harvel claims. "In their hurry to get this thing painted in a positive light for Congress, some things are coming back to haunt them," he says of the V-22's supporters.

But in addition to tweaking the safety stats, Osprey boosters have a sure-fire method of masking the flaws in the V-22's development, one that was evident following the 2010 Afghanistan crash and can be summed up in three simple words:

Blame the pilots.

Lt. Gen. Kurt Cichowski, the former vice commander of Air Force Special Operations Command, talks to student pilots. His fellow general, Don Harvel, accuses Cichowski of watering down a V-22 accident report.


The Blame Game
After Lt. Gen. Kurt Cichowski overruled Harvel's report blaming the 2010 fatal crash on engine failure, the Air Force offered up pilot error as a "substantially contributing factor." The same shift in blame, from machine to crew, can be seen in this year's V-22 accidents.

On April 11, Marine V-22s took part in a training exercise in Morocco. While slowly turning to avoid flying over some tents, the crew of one V-22 encountered a confluence of dangerous conditions that at the time was unknown to the Osprey developers. A stiff tailwind forced down the tiltrotor's nose and shifted its center of gravity. The aircraft tumbled out of control and smashed into the ground, injuring the two-man flight crew and killing two crew chiefs standing in the cargo hold.


In August the Marines announced the results of the crash investigation board. "A series of imprecise decisions and actions in the cockpit" led to the crash, the investigators concluded. But they advised the Corps to take "no administrative or disciplinary action" against the pilots. Instead, the Marines should update the Osprey's flight manual to address the dangers of turning at low speed and with a tailwind, the board recommended.

But the tailwind problem was identified in Bell's smaller BA609 tiltrotor "years ago," according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. The same phenomenon might have turned up in testing of the similar-but-larger V-22, too, had the Pentagon not been in a hurry to clear the revamped warbird for frontline use.

Two months later on June 13, two Air Force V-22s were flying in formation over a Florida training range when the crew of one aircraft "inadvertently" steered into the turbulent wake of the other. The pilot lost control and the Osprey plummeted to the ground. The aircraft was destroyed but everyone aboard survived. Coincidentally, Brian Luce, the only cockpit survivor of the April 2010 crash, was also co-pilot during the June incident.

The subsequent crash report, published in August, claimed that the pilot, Capt. Brett Cassidy, "did not maintain the required 25 feet of vertical separation" while flying in formation with another V-22. But the investigators admitted that "CV-22 wake modeling is inadequate for a trailing aircraft to make accurate estimations of safe separation from the preceding aircraft."

Again, the flight manual was incomplete. The crew "did the best they could do with limited training and the limited information in the operations manual," Harvel says.

As with the Morocco incident, the circumstances of the Florida crash should have been explored years ago during the Osprey's pre-service evaluation. Harvel says the Osprey testers actually did begin looking into formation turbulence. "They realized this was a big issue but weren't allowed finish."

Despite the V-22's long history of crashes and its known mechanical and aerodynamic complexity, in the minds of Pentagon planners expediency trumped safety. The result in these cases: a pair of destroyed tiltrotors and two dead airmen. But as long as the military can convincingly blame the recent crashes on the pilots and not the plane, the V-22 appears to be a safer design than it actually is.


Working Out the Bugs
Other recent incidents were thankfully less cataclysmic, but are still worrying. On April 11, the same day as the Morocco crash, a V-22 made an emergency landing in a field near the Texas factory where the tiltrotors are produced. And on July 9 in North Carolina, a V-22 pilot reported engine trouble and set down at the Wilmington airport.

These emergency landings were, in essence, pre-crashes -- and indicative of the Osprey's ongoing safety woes, in particular its temperamental engines. "At no time during the precautionary landing was there any danger," Marine spokesman 1st Lt. Eric Flanagan insisted. "The MV-22 is a highly-capable aircraft with an excellent safety record," he added.

But that record is a willful misrepresentation of the V-22's true complexity, its tendency to crash and the risks -- some long known, others newly discovered -- incumbent in flying it. "Those bugs should have been worked through," Harvel says of the specific flaws that led to this year's crashes.

They weren't worked through until aircraft had burned and, in one case, men had died.

Today the Marines and Air Force are rapidly adding V-22s to their frontline fleets -- in the U.S. and at an American base in Japan -- without having fully addressed the tiltrotor's safety woes, though last month the Pentagon did solicit bids for an engine-improvement program. Only a relentless spin campaign disguises the Osprey's dangers. And anyone who dares to call out the military for failing to resolve the problems could suffer the same silencing and reprisal that Harvel did.

Harvel's career took some pummeling from the V-22's protectors. Now that he's finally free to talk, he says he's only "disappointed" in the way his military service ended. The real victims, current and potential, are the V-22's crews, passengers and anyone standing beneath the finicky tiltrotors as they fly overhead.

David Axe reports from war zones, shoots television and writes comic books.
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ospreys had safety issues (AP) [2023]

 Ospreys Had Safety Issues


Ospreys Had Safety Issues Long Before They Were Grounded. A Look at the Aircraft's History
When the U.S. military took the extraordinary step of grounding its fleet of V-22 Ospreys this week, it wasn't reacting just to the recent deadly crash of the aircraft off the coast of Japan

By Associated Press
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Dec. 7, 2023

WASHINGTON (AP) — When the U.S. military took the extraordinary step of grounding its entire fleet of V-22 Ospreys this week, it wasn’t reacting just to the recent deadly crash of the aircraft off the coast of Japan. The aircraft has had a long list of problems in its short history.

The Osprey takes off and lands like a helicopter but can tilt its propellers horizontally to fly like an airplane. That unique and complex design has allowed the Osprey to speed troops to the battlefield. The U.S. Marine Corps, which operates the vast majority of the Ospreys in service, calls it a “game-changing assault support platform."

But on Wednesday, the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps grounded all Ospreys after a preliminary investigation of last week’s crash indicated that a materiel failure — that something went wrong with the aircraft — and not a mistake by the crew led to the deaths.

And it's not the first time. There have been persistent questions about a mechanical problem with the clutch that has troubled the program for more than a decade. There also have been questions as to whether all parts of the Osprey have been manufactured according to safety specifications and, as those parts age, whether they remain strong enough to withstand the significant forces created by the Osprey's unique structure and dynamics of tiltrotor flight.
The government of Japan, which is the only international partner flying the Osprey, had already grounded its aircraft after the Nov. 29 crash, which killed all eight Air Force Special Operations Command service members on board.

“It's good they grounded the fleet,” said Rex Rivolo, a retired Air Force pilot who analyzed the Osprey for the Pentagon’s test and evaluation office from 1992 to 2007 as an analyst at the Institute for Defense Analyses, and who previously warned military officials that the aircraft wasn't safe. “At this point, they had no choice."

The Osprey has become a workhorse for the Marine Corps and Air Force Special Operations Command and was in the process of being adopted by the Navy to replace its C-2 Greyhound propeller planes, which transport personnel on and off at-sea aircraft carriers.

Marine Corps Ospreys also have been used to transport White House staff, press and security personnel accompanying the president. White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said they also are subject to the standdown.

While the Ospreys are grounded, Air Force Special Operations Command said it will work to mitigate the impact to operations, training and readiness. The command will continue to fly other aircraft and Osprey crews will continue to train on simulators, spokeswoman Lt. Col. Becky Heyse said.

It was not immediately clear how the other services will adapt their missions.


QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLUTCH

The first Ospreys only became operational in 2007 after decades of testing. But more than 50 troops have died either flight testing the Osprey or conducting training flights over the program's lifespan, including 20 deaths in four crashes over the past 20 months.

In July, the Marine Corps for the first time blamed one of the fatal Osprey crashes on a fleet-wide problem that has been known for years but for which there's still not a good fix. It's known as hard clutch engagement, or HCE.

The Osprey's two engines are linked by an interconnected drive shaft that runs inside the length of the wings. On each tip, by the engines, a component called a sprag clutch transfers torque, or power, from one proprotor to the other to make sure both rotors are spinning at the same speed. That keeps the Osprey's flight in balance. If one of the two engines fails, the sprag clutch is also a safety feature: It will transfer power from the working side to the failing engine's side to keep both rotors going.

But sprag clutches have also become a worrying element. As the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps began looking at HCE events following incidents in 2022, they determined that the clutches may be wearing out faster than anticipated.

Since 2010, Osprey clutches have slipped at least 15 times. As the system re-engages, hard clutch engagement occurs. In just fractions of a second, an HCE event creates a power spike that surges power to the other engine, which can throw the Osprey into an uncontrolled roll or slide. A power spike can also destroy a sprag clutch, essentially severing the interconnected drive shaft. That could result in the complete loss of aircraft control with little or no time for the pilots to react and save their Osprey or crew, Rivolo said.

In the 2022 crash of a Marine Corps MV-22 in California that killed five Marines, hard clutch engagement created an “unrecoverable, catastrophic mechanical failure," the investigation found. The fire was so intense it destroyed the Osprey's flight data recorder — another issue the Marines have pushed to fix, by requiring new flight data recorders to be better able to survive a crash.


OSPREYS HAVE BEEN GROUNDED BEFORE

After Air Force Special Operations Command experienced two hard clutch engagement incidents within six weeks in 2022, the commander, Lt. Gen. James Slife, grounded all of its Ospreys for two weeks. An undisclosed number of Ospreys across the military were grounded again in February 2023 as work began on clutch replacements.

But getting replacements to all the aircraft at the time depended on their availability, Slife said in 2022.

And even that replacement may not be the fix. Neither the services nor defense contractors Bell Textron or Boeing, which jointly produce the Osprey, have found a root cause. The clutch “may be the manifestation of the problem,” but not the root cause, Slife said.

In last week’s crash, Japanese media outlet NHK reported that an eyewitness saw the Osprey inverted with an engine on fire before it went down in the sea. If eyewitness accounts are correct, Rivolo said, clutch failure and a catastrophic failure of the interconnected drive shaft should be investigated as a potential cause.

After its investigation of the 2022 crash, the Marine Corps made several recommendations, including designing a new quill assembly, which is a component that mitigates clutch slippage and hard clutch engagement, and requiring that all drivetrain component materiel be strengthened.

That work is ongoing, according to the V-22 Joint Program Office, which is responsible for the development and production of the aircraft. A new quill assembly design is being finalized and testing of a prototype should begin early next year, it said.


WHISTLEBLOWER QUESTIONS

Materiel strength was the subject of a whistleblower lawsuit that Boeing settled with the Justice Department in September for $8.1 million. Two former Boeing V-22 composites fabricators had come forward with allegations that Boeing was falsifying records certifying that it had performed the testing necessary to ensure it maintained uniform temperatures required to ensure the Osprey's composite parts were strengthened according to DOD specifications.

A certain temperature was needed for uniform molecular bonding of the composite surface. Without that bond, “the components will contain resin voids, linear porosity, and other defects that are not visible to the eye; which compromise the strength and other characteristics of the material, and which can cause catastrophic structural failures,” the lawsuit alleged.

In its settlement, the Justice Department contended Boeing did not meet the Pentagon's manufacturing standards from 2007 to 2018; the whistleblowers contended in their lawsuit that this affected more than 80 Ospreys that were delivered in that time frame.

In a statement to The Associated Press, Boeing said it entered into the settlement agreement with the Justice Department and Navy "to resolve certain False Claims Act allegations, without admission of liability.”

Boeing said while composites are used throughout the V-22, the parts that were questioned in the lawsuit were “all non-critical parts that do not implicate flight safety.”

“Boeing is in compliance with its curing processes for composite parts,” the company said. “Additionally, we would stress that the cause of the accident in Japan is currently unknown. We are standing by to provide any requested support.”


ONGOING FIXES

The V-22 Joint Program Office said that since the 2022 incidents, significant progress has been made toward identifying the cause of the hard clutch engagement.

“While the definitive root cause has not yet been determined, the joint government and industry team has narrowed down the scope of the investigation to a leading theory,” it said in a statement to the AP. "The leading theory involves a partial engagement of some clutches which have been installed for a lengthy period of time. This has not yet been definitively proven, but the data acquired thus far support this theory."

Bell assembles the Osprey in a partnership with Boeing in its facilities in Amarillo, Texas. Bell would not comment on last week's crash, but said it works with the services when an accident occurs. “The level of support is determined by the service branch safety center in charge of the investigation,” Bell spokesman Jay Hernandez said.

In its report on the fatal 2022 crash, the Marine Corps forewarned that more accidents were possible because neither the military nor manufacturers have been able to isolate a root cause. It said future incidents were "impossible to prevent without improvements to flight control system software, drivetrain component material strength, and robust inspection requirements.”

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BY LOLITA C. BALDOR
Published 11:18 AM PDT, July 21, 2023

WASHINGTON (AP) — The deadly crash of a Marine V-22 Osprey in California last year was caused by mechanical failure, according to an investigation that ruled out pilot and maintenance errors.

The more than 400-page report released on Friday concluded that the Marines were doing routine flight operations when a “catastrophic, unpreventable and unanticipated mechanical failure occurred.” The Osprey crashed in a remote area near Glamis, about 115 miles (185 kilometers) east of San Diego.

Five Marines died in the crash: Two pilots, Capt. Nicholas P. Losapio, 31, of Rockingham, New Hampshire, and Capt. John J. Sax, 33, of Placer, California; and three crew chiefs, Cpl. Nathan E. Carlson, 21, of Winnebago, Illinois; Cpl. Seth D. Rasmuson, 21, of Johnson, Wyoming, and Lance Cpl. Evan A. Strickland, 19, of Valencia, New Mexico.

“The tragedy of this event is impossible to capture in words,” said Maj. Gen. Bradford Gering, who was commander of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, in a memo attached to the report. “It is clear from the investigation that there was nothing the crew of SWIFT 11 could have done to anticipate or prevent this aviation mishap.”

The report also ruled out any issues with weather, birds or other external factors. And it concluded that there should be no disciplinary actions or administrative actions against any Marines.

According to the investigation, the specific cause of the crash was a “dual hard clutch engagement” that led to engine failure. The report said the V-22 program office has worked to fix the clutch problems.

Col. Brian Taylor, a program manager, said while the root cause of the clutch failure hasn’t been identified, a number of changes and equipment replacements have reduced the risk of it recurring by 99%, but have not eliminated it.

The report notes there were no direct witnesses to the accident in June 2022, and due to the fiery crash, the data recorder was not recovered.

As of April 2022, the Marine Corps and Navy had logged a total of 422,165 flight hours on the Osprey since 2012. The report said there have been five fatal crashes of Marine Ospreys since 2012, causing a total of 16 deaths.

The investigation also found that since 2010 there have been 16 similar clutch problems with the Marine Ospreys in flight. In February 2023 the Marine Corps began replacing a piece of equipment on the aircraft, and there have been no similar problems since then.

The Osprey is a hybrid aircraft that takes off and lands like a helicopter, but during flight it can rotate its propellers to a horizontal position and cruise like an airplane. Versions of the aircraft are flown by the Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force.

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list of v-22 osprey growing pain (deaths)   
  hydralic virus 
  gearbox flaw
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v-22 osprey Tilt-Rotor aircraft the window maker (tombstone effect, tombstone technology development method (TTDM)) 
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  List of Osprey v-22 manufacturing issues: 
    - manufacturing issues, like the persistent issue with the Osprey’s gearbox that can cause its clutch to dangerously slip. 

 - The rotors generate so much wind, they kick up dust and debris both into the engines and into the air, obscuring the pilot’s visibility. 
 - The rotors often damage carrier bases and tarmacs during takeoffs and landings because of the high temperatures they produce. 
 - Problems like these make the Osprey expensive to operate and maintain.

 - These issues may be traced back to 1999, when the program waived a number of operational tests because the Osprey was unable to meet certain requirements — an unacceptable workaround. 
 - “You shouldn’t be able to fudge program requirements when the prototype isn’t up to snuff,” 

 - “The military tends to know about design flaws long before they actually fix them," Julia explained. “I think the services would like to say instead, ‘Look, the Osprey is a complicated aircraft, and you have to get in a lot of flight hours to know how to mitigate these issues.’”
 - “But it’s more of a reflection of the program itself than the pilots that these issues are resurfacing over the course of decades.”



Crash Course: V-22 Osprey
The V-22 Osprey has been touted as the aircraft of the future. But its troubling track record of crashes should give us all pause. 

Sep 28, 2023 |
Spurthi Kontham

Crash Course: V-22 Osprey
Last month, a V-22 Osprey crashed during a routine training exercise in Australia with 23 people onboard. Three U.S. Marines died in the crash, and five others were rushed to the hospital in critical condition. Lamentably, the tragedy sounds all too familiar to those who know of the Osprey’s history. Just last year, five Marines died in an Osprey crash in California, also during a training exercise. Over the years, there have been over a dozen Osprey crashes that have left over 50 people dead. But these crashes are just the beginning of the Osprey’s issues: The aircraft’s new-age design has ushered in a host of unprecedented challenges.

The Osprey’s touted as the aircraft of the future — and not just the military’s future. But given its track record, that could be a bad thing. Where did things go wrong with the Osprey, and how can we make sure the safety of our troops isn’t jeopardized when flying them?

In this edition:

A helicopter-plane hybrid
Unprecedented design, unprecedented problems
Who’s at fault?
Looking above and ahead
To better understand the V-22 Osprey’s history, I talked to POGO Center for Defense Information Analyst Julia Gledhill, who recently wrote an analysis on the matter for Responsible Statecraft.

Read Now: Why they call the Osprey the ‘widow maker’

But first, some context. 
Understanding the Osprey’s design is fundamental to understanding the issues that plague the program.

The Osprey is a cross between a helicopter and a plane, combining the former’s vertical takeoff and landing capabilities with the latter’s ability to cover long distances and carry more people (up to 24) faster. It does this with the help of rotating blades (rotors) on each of its wings. This type of aircraft is called a tiltrotor, and the Osprey is the first of its kind in the U.S. military’s arsenal.

It’s believed that the need for the Osprey was born out of the failed Operation Eagle Claw. “The Iran hostage crisis revealed that there was a need for high-capacity, long-range aircraft that could still move with the agility of a helicopter,” Julia explained.

Full-scale development of the aircraft began in 1986. The Osprey is now most used by the United States Marine Corps (USMC), who, among other uses, employ the aircraft to transport troops and equipment long distances from sea bases. The agility and maneuverability of the Osprey has become representative of “a whole new way of war,” according to the USMC force design plans.

Long-term problems
But the Osprey’s shown concerning signs from the very start. The craft spent an unusually long time in development. In that period, the cost of the tiltrotor skyrocketed way past what was projected, ballooning by over 200%.

By the very nature of being the first of its kind, the aircraft ran into some previously unencountered problems. The rotors generate so much wind, they kick up dust and debris both into the engines and into the air, obscuring the pilot’s visibility. The rotors often damage carrier bases and tarmacs during takeoffs and landings because of the high temperatures they produce. Problems like these make the Osprey expensive to operate and maintain. They also keep the aircraft from performing: For 10 years straight, the Osprey fleet wasn’t deemed capable of carrying out its designated missions.

 - The rotors generate so much wind, they kick up dust and debris both into the engines and into the air, obscuring the pilot’s visibility. 
 - The rotors often damage carrier bases and tarmacs during takeoffs and landings because of the high temperatures they produce. 
 - Problems like these make the Osprey expensive to operate and maintain.
 

These issues may be traced back, frustratingly, to 1999, when the program waived a number of operational tests because the Osprey was unable to meet certain requirements — an unacceptable workaround. “You shouldn’t be able to fudge program requirements when the prototype isn’t up to snuff,” Julia said.

 - These issues may be traced back to 1999, when the program waived a number of operational tests because the Osprey was unable to meet certain requirements — an unacceptable workaround. 
 - “You shouldn’t be able to fudge program requirements when the prototype isn’t up to snuff,” 


The blame game
Because it is a new design, operating the Osprey has proved to be a learning process for everyone: pilots, maintenance crew, and manufacturers alike. The Osprey has been called challenging and “unforgiving” to fly.

In her new analysis, Julia pointed out the striking fact that many of the documented Osprey crashes occurred during pilot training. In their training, pilots are taught not just how to fly the craft but to be aware of and avoid existing manufacturing issues, like the persistent issue with the Osprey’s gearbox that can cause its clutch to dangerously slip. The crash that occurred in California last year, which claimed five Marines’ lives, occurred because of this very issue. An investigation into the matter found that there was nothing pilots could’ve done to prevent the mechanical failure.

List of Osprey v-22 manufacturing issues: 
manufacturing issues, like the persistent issue with the Osprey’s gearbox that can cause its clutch to dangerously slip. 

“The military tends to know about design flaws long before they actually fix them," Julia explained. “I think the services would like to say instead, ‘Look, the Osprey is a complicated aircraft, and you have to get in a lot of flight hours to know how to mitigate these issues.’”

She continued, “But it’s more of a reflection of the program itself than the pilots that these issues are resurfacing over the course of decades.”

Protecting the future 
The V-22 Osprey has been touted as the aircraft that can usher not just military aircraft but civilian airliners into the future. It’s the first of its kind, but it is unlikely to be the last.

The Army is currently preparing to launch the V-280 Valor program: A new class of tiltrotor aircraft that will replace the more reliable and iconic fleet of Black Hawk helicopters, which have served a variety of functions in the military for over 40 years.

But with questions about tiltrotors’ effectiveness and safety still up in the air, it’s important as ever that the Osprey’s issues are investigated now, for the sake of our troops’ safety and the future of flight as a whole.

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 - CH-53E helicopter (more dangerous than osprey v-22, why?)

  - Osprey generates excessive wind on the ground.
  - rotor downwash proved problematic in Iraq, during the Osprey’s first deployment in 2007. 
  - the pilots couldn’t see anything!
  - The Marine Corps ended up tasking CH-53E pilots with scouting out landing zones for the Ospreys — largely defeating the purpose of a helicopter/airplane hybrid.
  - The issue of the Osprey’s rotor blast persists. 
    - impair pilot visibility
    - it literally kicks soil into the aircraft’s engines. 
    - redesign may not even “correct long-standing problems with the V-22.”

 - Mark Thompson 
   - mechanical challenges
   - UH-1 huey
   - AH-1 cobra 
   - rotor issues 
   - rotor separated from the aircraft 
   - “killed hundreds of troops between 1967 and 1983.”

 - unreliability and expensive maintenance needs. 



Why they call the Osprey the 'widow maker'
After the hybrid craft has been linked to a series deaths, one wonders why it's taken so long to face the facts.
ANALYSIS | MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
Military Industrial Complex Pentagon Budget
JULIA GLEDHILL
SEP 21, 2023

The V-22 Osprey flies like a bird and hovers like a bee.

Furnished with rotors at the end of each wing, the aircraft takes off and lands like a helicopter but relies on its fixed wings to go the distance during flight. For this reason, some consider the Osprey the best of both worlds in aviation — others call it “the widow maker.”

Just a few weeks ago, three Marines died in an Osprey crash during a training exercise in Australia, bringing total fatalities involving the Osprey to over 50. And while there are certainly more dangerous aircraft out there (take the CH-53E helicopter, for example), what’s striking about the Osprey is that since the aircraft became operational in 2007, most of the fatalities involving the aircraft have happened during training exercises, not active operations.

 - CH-53E helicopter (more dangerous than osprey v-22, why?)

Still, the Osprey isn’t historically reliable when it comes to combat readiness. In fact, the program missed the boat on meeting its reliability rate goals in every year from 2011 to 2021 — despite taking its first flight in 1989. The aircraft didn’t make its combat debut until 2007, having missed deployment to “Bosnia in 1995, Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.” And for good reason — during the testing phase, the aircraft experienced four crashes resulting in 30 fatalities.

Since then, the program has grappled with persistent design flaws, significantly increasing the program’s costs. From 1986 to 2007 alone, the program’s research, development, testing, and evaluation costs ballooned by over 200 percent.

With rotors situated atop wings like tree branches, the Osprey requires serious horsepower to get moving. There are two engines to propel the rotors, lifting the aircraft for vertical takeoff and then thrusting the Osprey forward during flight. So as you can imagine with not one, but two rotors, the Osprey generates excessive wind on the ground.

  - Osprey generates excessive wind on the ground.
  - rotor downwash proved problematic in Iraq, during the Osprey’s first deployment in 2007. 
  - the pilots couldn’t see anything!
  - The Marine Corps ended up tasking CH-53E pilots with scouting out landing zones for the Ospreys — largely defeating the purpose of a helicopter/airplane hybrid.
  - The issue of the Osprey’s rotor blast persists. 
    - impair pilot visibility
    - it literally kicks soil into the aircraft’s engines. 
    - redesign may not even “correct long-standing problems with the V-22.”

Its rotor downwash proved problematic in Iraq, during the Osprey’s first deployment in 2007. In a desert environment, the pilots couldn’t see anything! The Marine Corps ended up tasking CH-53E pilots with scouting out landing zones for the Ospreys — largely defeating the purpose of a helicopter/airplane hybrid.

The issue of the Osprey’s rotor blast persists. Not only does it impair pilot visibility, but it literally kicks soil into the aircraft’s engines. In 2019, the Department of Defense Inspector General (IG) reported that the Osprey remains at risk of engine failure. Over nine years of attempts to redesign the Navy version of the aircraft and to prevent engine ingestion of natural materials have failed. The IG went so far as to state that redesign may not even “correct long-standing problems with the V-22.”

 - Department of Defense Inspector General (IG) reported
on osprey v-22

Besides the risks associated with the Osprey’s rotor blast, the aircraft struggles with a troublesome gearbox. The faulty device can cause the engine clutch to slip, which unintentionally disengages one of the aircraft’s proprotors — dually functioning as a rotor and propellor. A malfunctioning proprotor (even if only disengaged for a matter of moments) sends a lurch through the aircraft, throwing it off balance and causing it to nosedive.

 - gearbox : cause the engine clutch to slip 
 - A malfunctioning proprotor (even if only disengaged for a matter of moments) sends a lurch through the aircraft, throwing it off balance and causing it to nosedive.

That’s what happened last summer when five Marines died in an Osprey crash in California. An investigation into the crash recently revealed that there was nothing pilots could have done to prevent or respond to the issue. And while investigations into other recent Osprey crashes have not yet been released, it appears the gearbox issue played a role in several recent Osprey “mishaps.” The Air Force grounded its V-22 fleet last summer because of the issue, and the Marine Corps and Navy have since followed suit, grounding an undisclosed number of Ospreys.

The military has known about the gearbox and clutch problem since 2010, when an Air Force Osprey crash killed four people and injured many others. But as my colleague Mark Thompson has pointed out, this particular mechanical challenge greatly resembles those of older helicopters — the 67 UH-1 Huey and AH-1 Cobra in particular — which faced rotor issues that “killed hundreds of troops between 1967 and 1983.”

 - Mark Thompson 
   - mechanical challenges
   - UH-1 huey
   - AH-1 cobra 
   - rotor issues 
   - rotor separated from the aircraft 
   - “killed hundreds of troops between 1967 and 1983.”

In the case of those aircraft, the rotors didn’t just disengage, but in some cases separated from the aircraft entirely. With that terrifying imagery in mind, imagine watching the military blame a crash on pilots no longer around to defend themselves.

Another through line between the Osprey, the Huey, the Cobra, and even the CH-53E is the tendency for the services to attribute mishaps to pilot error. Thompson notes that, in the 1980s, the Army produced a film to train and educate aviators on how to avoid the Cobra and Huey’s rotor issues before eventually grounding the Huey and replacing parts in both aircraft to fix the issue. The tradition continues with the Marine Corps repeatedly blaming pilots for CH-53E and Osprey crashes, the latter of which prompted the late Walter Jones — who represented North Carolina’s 3rd congressional district — to lead a 14-year-long crusade to clear the names of two pilots who died in a 2000 crash.

Jones was ultimately successful in spite of the squadron commanders’ mischaracterization of the V-22’s true performance through incomplete and/or inaccurate readiness reports.

Time will tell the true causes of the most recent Osprey crashes, but if history is any indication, there will be several contributing factors. The question now is how investigators will weigh them.

Regardless, the effectiveness of the Osprey is more critical to investigate now than ever as the Army prepares to launch the V-280 Valor program, which is set to eventually replace the Army’s fleet of Black Hawk helicopters.

This new program, which could cost up to $70 billion in its lifetime, will supposedly help the Army prepare for a potential future war in the Pacific. There, issues of range could be a serious factor, so the V-280 Valor will employ a similar design as the V-22. But that means it will likely face the same sort of challenges and tradeoffs as the Osprey, like unreliability and expensive maintenance needs.
 
 - unreliability and expensive maintenance needs. 

Julia Gledhill
Julia Gledhill is an analyst in the Center for Defense Information at the Project on Government Oversight. Before joining POGO, she was a foreign policy associate at the Friends Committee on National Legislation.
The views expressed by authors on Responsible Statecraft do not necessarily reflect those of the Quincy Institute or its associates.

SEP 21, 2023
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  gearbox flaw (osprey v-22)

Known V-22 Gearbox Problem Caused Fatal June 2022 Crash
Brian Everstine July 21, 2023

The U.S. Marine Corps has since 2010 known of a critical safety issue on its V-22 Osprey fleet—a gearbox flaw that can cause the tiltrotor’s clutch to slip, severely impacting the safety of flight.

For years, the Corps says it has trained its crews to be aware of and work around the issue. While the Air Force grounded its V-22 fleet last year because of the issue, the USMC kept flying, saying it is confident in the safety of its aircraft.

On June 8, 2022, a hard clutch engagement (HCE) hit a V-22 as it flew over the deserts of Southern California, causing the Osprey to violently crash and killing all five on board. Despite USMC claims that its crews could work around the issue, an investigation released July 21 states there was nothing the expert pilots could do. They could not have known that the problem was going to happen, and they did not have time to react.

Aviation Week reporting shows the newly released investigation was one of at least four such gearbox problems that occurred in serious crashes of both Marine Corps and U.S. Air Force V-22s last year. While the new accident investigation board report into the June 2022 incident states the HCE was the primarily cause of that crash, an investigation into another 2022 fatal MV-22 crash in Norway states a gearbox problem did occur but blamed that mishap on pilot error.

For the U.S. Air Force, at least two proprotor gearbox problems forced down V-22s, according to information on the Class A mishaps by Aviation Week---incidents defined as causing at least $2.5 million in damage or severe injuries or deaths. One high-profile incident in August 2022 in Norway prompted the Air Force to stand down its operations. This came after another incident on May 17, 2022. Investigations into these incidents have not been released, and there were multiple other similar incidents, including another USAF CV-22 forced to land on July 8, 2022, and an MV-22B experienced an engine fire while landing in October 2022.

 - two proprotor gearbox problems 

While the Air Force stood down operations and was the first to commit to retrofitting the input quill assemblies of its fleet, the Marine Corps and Navy kept flying after the June 2022 crash in California.

 - input quill assemblies 

The mishap crew was from the “Purple Foxes” of Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron 364 (VMM-364)---Capt. Nicholas P. Losapio, Capt. John J. Sax, Cpl. Nathan E. Carlson, Cpl. Seth D. Rasmuson and Lance Cpl. Evan A. Strickland. 

According to the accident investigation board (AIB) report, the Osprey was one of two flying near Glamis, California, for a live-fire tail gun training mission from Camp Pendleton. After the third pass, the V-22 crew reported via radio it had “hot boxes,” meaning the aircraft’s gearboxes were running at a high temperature. The crew then climbed to a higher altitude to cool the gearboxes. After coming down for another weapons pass, the Osprey’s wingman lost visual of the V-22 during a turn because of the angle of bank. Seven seconds after the last radar contact, the V-22 crashed. 

 - “hot boxes,” meaning the aircraft’s gearboxes were running at a high temperature. 

 - hard clutch engagement (HCE)

The AIB states the cause of the crash was a dual HCE, creating a single engine and interconnect drive system failure. This caused a “catastrophic loss of thrust” on the right proprotor, creating an unrecoverable departure from controlled flight. 

“It is clear from the investigation that there was no error on the part of the pilots and aircrew and nothing they could have done to anticipate or prevent this mishap,” Headquarters Marine Corps says in a statement. “They were conducting routine flight operations in accordance with applicable regulations when this catastrophic and unanticipated mechanical failure occurred.”

In the statement the Marine Corps states it has since 2010 made “numerous actions associated with defining, mitigating or eliminating HCEs.”

In February, the V-22 Joint Program Office (PMA-275) announced the whole fleet would undergo input quill assembly (IQA) replacement even though the full root cause of the HCE has not been determined. The AIB report states IQAs are being replaced every 800 hours. Since then, there have been 22,258 flight hours with no reported HCE events. 

a hard clutch engagement (HCE)

“The completion of this investigation does not close the HCE effort within PMA-275,” says Col. Brian Taylor, PMA-275 program manager, in a statement. “The implemented IQA life limit, which reduced overall V-22 HCE risk by greater than 99 percent, was not a result of this investigation but is certainly reinforced by its findings.” 

The HCE issue is one of 13 Category 1 deficiencies on the V-22 fleet, issues that are defined as possibly affecting safety of flight. The program office has declined to identify the other deficiencies. 

After the grounding was first announced, Air Force Special Operations Command was the first command to look back at past V-22 mishaps to see if what is now understood about the HCE phenomena would have changed the findings. The Navy and Marine Corps followed suit. AFSOC said at the close of that investigation that what is known would not “materially” change---while HCEs could not completely be ruled out of some, it did not merit re-opening the investigations. 

hard clutch engagement (HCE)

One of the most notable incidents was the April 2010 crash of an Air Force V-22 in Afghanistan that killed four and injured 16. The official account of the crash did not identify a main cause since key pieces of evidence, such as the flight data recorder and an entire engine, were missing. However, then-AIB president Brig. Gen. Donald Harvel wrote there was an “abnormal engine response” and the proprotor’s speed was low when it attempted a rolling landing. AFSOC at the time disagreed with the findings, and issued a statement blaming the pilots.

Harvel, who retired shortly after and died in 2020, wrote his account of the investigation in a book titled Rotors in the Sand. In a chapter called “My Unofficial Opinion of What Really Happened,” Harvel wrote that gearbox problems were likely a cause.

Rotors In The Sand: Harvel, Don: 9781098303327: Amazon.com: Books

Rotors in the Sand
by Donald Harvel
“My Unofficial Opinion of What Really Happened,”
gearbox problems were likely a cause.

Brian Everstine
Brian Everstine is the Pentagon Editor for Aviation Week, based in Washington, D.C. Before joining Aviation Week in August 2021, he covered the Pentagon for Air Force Magazine. Brian began covering defense aviation in 2011 as a reporter for Military Times.

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 - ongoing gearbox transmission problems. 
 - Lt. Gen. Jim Slife, AFSOC commander 
 - services explores installing new gearbox assemblies
 - marine corps, navy and japan are not yet following u.s. air force's lead
 - sprag clutch component of the proprotor gearbox,
 - although the Marine Corps, for example, says it has been a known issue since at least 2010. 
  - November 16, 2022
 - hard clutch engagement
 - The problem centers on the sprag clutch component of the proprotor gearbox, a part that connects the tilting Rolls-Royce AE 1107C engines to the proprotors. 
 - installing rebuilt input quill assemblies on all CV-22s—a remanufacture of a key component of the proprotor gearbox that is sheared during a hard clutch engagement—with new inner and outer races and sprag clutches. 

Donald Harvel
Rotors in the Sand
“My Unofficial Opinion of What Really Happened,” which asserts that gearbox problems were a cause.
  - “The crew had no idea of what caused the power loss situation,” Harvel writes. “There were no procedures, and no information in their flight manuals about clutch failure. However, they would get other ‘cautions’ posted on their engine instruments relating to driveshaft and gearbox components attached to the right engine.”
  - “The engine was running, but the proprotor gearbox clutch was broken. In fact, I think both engines were running. They were operating at an abnormally low power.”

 - compressor stall => dumped fuel to reduce weight 
 - compressor stall => dumped fuel to reduce weight => increased thrust to full power to try to reverse the rapid  descent
 - compressor stall => a surge in torque to the right engine, breaking the proprotor gearbox clutch => destroying the engine => crash 
 - clutch failure
 - ‘cautions’ light driveshaft components 
 - ‘cautions’ light gearbox components 
 - proprotor gearbox clutch was broken. 
 - sprag clutch slippage => hard clutch engagement 
 - the clutch is slipping 
 - replace components with enough time on them ... slip 

 - Lt. Gen. Jim Slife, AFSOC commander 
  - November 16, 2022
  - “When we did our stand-down in August, at the time I highlighted that we did not know of any catastrophic mishaps that had been caused by the hard clutch engagement,” Slife tells Aviation Week. “But it is a serious phenomenon, and AFSOC has had a number of these events that were kept from being catastrophic by pretty impressive feats of airmanship by the crews flying the airplanes.”
  - “Essentially the question that I asked and impaneled our team to go answer was: Would what we now know about the hard clutch engagement phenomenon—when it happens, how it manifests itself and so forth—would that knowledge materially change any of the findings or conclusions of any prior board, where perhaps we just didn’t understand the phenomenon of these sprag clutch slippage events and the subsequent hard clutch engagement? That was the scope of what we did,” Slife says.
  - “We know we have to identify the root cause of why the clutch is slipping in the first place and fix whatever the root cause is,” Slife says. “So I don’t know that the clutch is the root cause. But we do know that the clutch is slipping, and so we’ve got to work back and figure out what the root cause is.”
  - can you stressed test the clutch, forcing it to slip?
  - stressed test the gearbox?
  - “In the meantime, can we replace the components that are subject to slipping? [These are] some of the details inside the clutch and the sprags themselves, the inner and outer races of the clutch,” Slife says. “Can we replace components on a time-change schedule to make sure that we’re avoiding clutches with enough time on them that they might be subject to slipping?”
  - “Early in my career, the battle of Mogadishu, [Somalia,] in 1993 was the first time that people I personally knew were killed in combat,” he recalls. “It left a mark on me. I never, as a leader, want to be in a position where I would look back at something that I asked somebody to do and wish that I would have changed something when I had the opportunity to. So this is kind of the Mogadishu test for me.”
  - “I’ve had to bury my friends, and I don’t want to do any more of that than I have to,” he says. “That was kind of what led us down this path in the first place. I think we’re in a better place, even if we don’t fully understand what’s going on inside the input quills themselves.”
  - November 16, 2022



Gearbox Issue’s Root Cause Elusive As USAF Investigates V-22 Crashes
Brian Everstine November 16, 2022

An Air Force CV-22 was forced to land in Norway, prompting a grounding of the service’s Ospreys to investigate ongoing transmission problems.

ongoing gearbox transmission problems. 

For most of the Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey’s service life, operators have tried to work around a phenomenon inside the tiltrotor’s gearbox: The sprag clutch slips, causing a subsequent hard engagement that can damage the engine and affect flight safety.

In mid-August, U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC) grounded its CV-22s after an Osprey was forced to land in a remote area of Norway. The incident prompted AFSOC Commander Lt. Gen. Jim Slife to ask: If the sprag clutch phenomenon forced this Osprey into a hard landing, could it be responsible for other mishaps? And as the problem becomes better understood, are there interim steps that can be taken to improve safety, even if the root cause of the slippage remains elusive?

 - Lt. Gen. Jim Slife, AFSOC commander 
 - services explores installing new gearbox assemblies
 - marine corps, navy and japan are not yet following u.s. air force's lead

“When we did our stand-down in August, at the time I highlighted that we did not know of any catastrophic mishaps that had been caused by the hard clutch engagement,” Slife tells Aviation Week. “But it is a serious phenomenon, and AFSOC has had a number of these events that were kept from being catastrophic by pretty impressive feats of airmanship by the crews flying the airplanes.”

 - ongoing gearbox transmission problems. 
 - sprag clutch component of the proprotor gearbox,
 - hard clutch engagement

The problem centers on the sprag clutch component of the proprotor gearbox, a part that connects the tilting Rolls-Royce AE 1107C engines to the proprotors. AFSOC recently conducted a review of 62 severe mishaps over the entirety of the CV-22’s service life, looking at both classified investigations and publicly released reports. A group of subject matter experts and legal advisors combed through the available data to discern whether what is known about the hard clutch engagement could have been a contributing factor to the incidents. The V-22 Program Office, along with the Navy and Marine Corps, followed suit, looking at their own history of mishaps to see if the issue could answer questions about the crashes.

The results, Slife and the other services say, is that none of the findings would be “materially” changed based on what is now known. That does not mean a hard clutch engagement was not involved in some way in the mishaps. It just means that the existing investigations would not be substantially changed by what could be gleaned from new reviews, so there is no merit in the extremely rare step of reconvening an investigation, Slife says.

AFSOC, the only command to ground its V-22 fleet because of the hard clutch engagement, is also the only one looking to go forward with a potential change to its aircraft to mitigate the issue. The command said in a statement that it is exploring with Bell-Boeing potentially installing rebuilt input quill assemblies on all CV-22s—a remanufacture of a key component of the proprotor gearbox that is sheared during a hard clutch engagement—with new inner and outer races and sprag clutches. Slife says the command is finalizing its decision, determining overall impacts to the fleet if the replacements go forward. The V-22 Program Office said in a statement that it supports AFSOC’s plan. The Marine Corps and Navy are still determining whether to follow suit.

 - ongoing gearbox transmission problems. 
 - sprag clutch component of the proprotor gearbox,
 - hard clutch engagement
 - installing rebuilt input quill assemblies on all CV-22s—a remanufacture of a key component of the proprotor gearbox that is sheared during a hard clutch engagement—with new inner and outer races and sprag clutches. 


Controversial Crash
One of the worst mishaps in AFSOC’s recent history was a driving factor in the decision to conduct the review—an April 2010 crash in Afghanistan that killed four and injured 16 on board. The crash became well known because of some controversy surrounding the investigation, with the command at the time publicly rebuking the top investigator.

The Air Force’s official account of the crash, the publicly released Accident Investigation Board (AIB) report, did not identify a main cause because key pieces of evidence, including one entire engine and the flight data recorder, were missing or destroyed. The report stated that engine power loss was a potential contributing factor, with ground markings and video from a nearby A-10 showing engine degradation and an “abnormal engine response.” An analysis showed that proprotor speed was low when the aircraft attempted a rolling landing on a rough surface, then-AIB President and Brig. Gen. Donald Harvel wrote.

However, AFSOC at the time disagreed with Harvel’s findings, issuing a statement that engine power loss could not have been a major factor in the crash. It instead blamed the pilots.

Donald Harvel
Rotors in the Sand
“My Unofficial Opinion of What Really Happened,” which asserts that gearbox problems were a cause.
 - ongoing gearbox transmission problems. 
 - sprag clutch component of the proprotor gearbox,
 - hard clutch engagement
 - installing rebuilt input quill assemblies on all CV-22s—a remanufacture of a key component of the proprotor gearbox that is sheared during a hard clutch engagement—with new inner and outer races and sprag clutches. 

Harvel retired shortly after the report was released, but he later wrote a book about the crash, the AIB process and the command’s response. The book, Rotors in the Sand, includes a chapter titled “My Unofficial Opinion of What Really Happened,” which asserts that gearbox problems were a cause. He writes that when the Osprey was descending, the left engine experienced a compressor stall, and the flight engineer dumped fuel to reduce weight. Crewmembers were overwhelmed by a sudden loss of engine power, and the pilot increased thrust to full power to try to reverse the rapid descent. The stall led to a surge in torque to the right engine, breaking the proprotor gearbox clutch and destroying the engine.

“The crew had no idea of what caused the power loss situation,” Harvel writes. “There were no procedures, and no information in their flight manuals about clutch failure. However, they would get other ‘cautions’ posted on their engine instruments relating to driveshaft and gearbox components attached to the right engine.”

A Rolls-Royce analysis of an engine recovered after the Osprey was destroyed found that it was running, not shut down, at the time of the crash. Harvel agreed: “The engine was running, but the proprotor gearbox clutch was broken. In fact, I think both engines were running. They were operating at an abnormally low power.” The incident was referenced in later reports about Osprey crashes, but the investigation was not revisited. Harvel died in 2020.

Slife says this crash and another two years later—at Hurlburt Field, Florida, that resulted in the aircraft being destroyed but no fatalities—remain mysteries to him. He was personally close to both incidents. A longtime friend, Senior Master Sgt. James Lackey, died in the Afghanistan crash, and Slife attended his funeral and gave the eulogy. At Hurlburt, he was the wing commander at the time of the crash.

“Essentially the question that I asked and impaneled our team to go answer was: Would what we now know about the hard clutch engagement phenomenon—when it happens, how it manifests itself and so forth—would that knowledge materially change any of the findings or conclusions of any prior board, where perhaps we just didn’t understand the phenomenon of these sprag clutch slippage events and the subsequent hard clutch engagement? That was the scope of what we did,” Slife says.

 - compressor stall => dumped fuel to reduce weight 
 - compressor stall => dumped fuel to reduce weight => increased thrust to full power to try to reverse the rapid  descent
 - compressor stall => a surge in torque to the right engine, breaking the proprotor gearbox clutch => destroying the engine => crash 
 - clutch failure
 - ‘cautions’ light driveshaft components 
 - ‘cautions’ light gearbox components 
 - proprotor gearbox clutch was broken. 
 - sprag clutch slippage => hard clutch engagement 


“And the answer that came back [was] that there are no findings or conclusions from any of the prior investigations that would have been changed by what we now know about hard clutch engagements,” he continues. “That doesn’t mean that hard clutch engagements were not present in any of those previous mishaps that we looked at; it just means that the findings and the conclusions of the investigations themselves would not have been materially changed by our current understanding of that phenomenon.”

For the Afghanistan crash, the ability to reinvestigate the incident was limited. There was very little evidence. The aircraft was destroyed and the crash site ransacked after the responding ground force did not retrieve the data recorder. The AFSOC team looked at testimony given at the time, though the co-pilot said during the original investigation that he could not recall the crash. Slife says Harvel’s formal report at the time concluded that an unexplained mechanical malfunction was the cause. What is now known about the hard clutch engagement “neither supports nor undermines that conclusion,” Slife says.

“Could that have been part of the sequence of events that led to that crash?” he asks. “It could have, we just don’t have any evidence that would suggest that’s the case. And so . . . it didn’t warrant a reopening of the investigation because it didn’t tell us anything about that specific mishap that we didn’t already know.”

Looking for the Root Cause
None of the V-22 operators know the root cause of the hard clutch engagement issue, although the Marine Corps, for example, says it has been a known issue since at least 2010. When the Air Force grounded its fleet in August, the Marines and Navy kept flying and said their aircrews know how to work around it. It is one of 13 Category 1 deficiencies that could affect flight safety of the V-22 fleet. The program office declined to identify the other deficiencies.

Slife says AFSOC crews have changed how they fly, including procedural changes to adjust how power is applied for tactical takeoff-and-departure operations as part of risk controls in place.

A data collection effort is underway to continue investigating the issue. When an Osprey experiences a hard clutch engagement, the clutch is sent to Bell-Boeing to examine the material and help determine a long-term fix.

“We know we have to identify the root cause of why the clutch is slipping in the first place and fix whatever the root cause is,” Slife says. “So I don’t know that the clutch is the root cause. But we do know that the clutch is slipping, and so we’ve got to work back and figure out what the root cause is.”

 - the clutch is slipping 
 - replace components with enough time on them that they might slip 

In the short term, AFSOC is looking at replacing the input quill assemblies to get ahead of a potential hard clutch engagement incident. “In the meantime, can we replace the components that are subject to slipping? [These are] some of the details inside the clutch and the sprags themselves, the inner and outer races of the clutch,” Slife says. “Can we replace components on a time-change schedule to make sure that we’re avoiding clutches with enough time on them that they might be subject to slipping?”

AFSOC is working with Bell-Boeing on the effort. It would not be a quick fix, as AFSOC and the program office are trying to understand industry’s timeline for building the new components and plan for installations across the Osprey fleet. The command estimates installations would take about six months to incorporate across the fleet, once new components are delivered. Bell-Boeing has not outlined any potential manufacturing timeline, referring questions to the program office.

As AFSOC progresses, the Marine Corps, Navy and the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force are determining whether to follow suit, the Marine Corps and the program office said in statements.

Slife says his connections to the 2010 and 2012 incidents, along with experiences early in his career, shaped his decision to ground the CV-22 fleet in August and how he is proceeding with AFSOC’s Osprey plans.

“Early in my career, the battle of Mogadishu, [Somalia,] in 1993 was the first time that people I personally knew were killed in combat,” he recalls. “It left a mark on me. I never, as a leader, want to be in a position where I would look back at something that I asked somebody to do and wish that I would have changed something when I had the opportunity to. So this is kind of the Mogadishu test for me.”

If the fleet kept flying after the incident in Norway, and then another incident happened during which airmen were killed and a subsequent investigation found a hard clutch engagement had contributed to it, Slife says, he would look back at his decisions and wonder if he had done everything he could have to get to the root cause of the problem.

“I’ve had to bury my friends, and I don’t want to do any more of that than I have to,” he says. “That was kind of what led us down this path in the first place. I think we’re in a better place, even if we don’t fully understand what’s going on inside the input quills themselves.”


Brian Everstine
Brian Everstine is the Pentagon Editor for Aviation Week, based in Washington, D.C. Before joining Aviation Week in August 2021, he covered the Pentagon for Air Force Magazine. Brian began covering defense aviation in 2011 as a reporter for Military Times.


   ____________________________________

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/06/us/marine-corps-report-links-fatal-osprey-crash-to-software-malfunction.html

Marine Corps Report Links Fatal Osprey Crash to Software Malfunction
By James Dao
April 6, 2001

Problems began in the night training mission when a hydraulic line in one of the Osprey's two engine casings burst as the aircraft was approaching the New River Air Station in North Carolina.

The ruptured line caused warning lights to go off in the cockpit, including one on a computer reset button. The pilot, Lt. Col. Keith Sweaney, pushed that button, a standard procedure that should have resulted in no perceptible change in the aircraft.

But instead of resetting the controls, the software changed the pitch of the Osprey's rotors, causing the aircraft to accelerate unevenly.

Not realizing that the reset button was causing the problem, Colonel Sweaney punched it as many as 10 times trying to regain control. Instead, the aircraft pitched and rolled like ''a bucking bronco,'' as one analyst put it. Thirty seconds after the hydraulic line broke, the Osprey's rotors stalled, and it crashed.

The Ospreys have long had problems with their hydraulics lines, which are made of light titanium, which cracks easily. The Osprey uses an unusually high-pressure hydraulic system, which can generate more power in a more compact unit.

An array of recent reports cited problems with Osprey hydraulic leaks that caused engine failures and fires. Last month, an inspection found that all eight of the corps' Ospreys had hydraulic line problems, the report said.

The report concluded that the aircraft's manufacturers, Boeing and Bell Helicopter Textron, should redesign the hydraulic system and the engine casing to prevent hydraulic lines from being so easily frayed.

But the report also asserted that without the software malfunction, the Osprey probably could have limped to a safe landing. The report said that the software had been tested in December 1996 but that those tests did not adequately check the reset system. If they had, the report concluded, the deficiency ''may have been discovered.''

The software code was written by BAE Systems and was integrated with the Osprey's hardware by Boeing, Pentagon officials said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/06/us/marine-corps-report-links-fatal-osprey-crash-to-software-malfunction.html
   ____________________________________


Hydraulic Problems Vex V-22

Apr. 04, 2007
(Source: Project On Government Oversight; issued April 3, 2007)

The MV-22 Osprey continues to experience technical glitches, including recurring hydraulic problems. (US DoD photo)
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported this weekend that a Marine V-22 Osprey experienced a hydraulic leak that led to an engine fire last Thursday:

“The Marine MV-22, assigned to the squadron that is expected to be the first to be deployed overseas this year, was preparing to take off from the Marine base at New River, N.C., when the crew got warnings of a fire and hydraulic leak in the right-hand engine nacelle.

An official statement released by the Marines public affairs office at New River called the incident "a minor nacelle fire."

But a former Marine V-22 maintenance supervisor, Josh Brannon, said "it's silly to suggest any fire is minor." Had the fire occurred a few minutes later during flight "they could have been having a funeral," said Brannon, who now supervises maintenance of medical-evacuation helicopters in South Carolina.

According to an early report of the incident sent out by the Naval Aviation Maintenance Discrepancy Reporting Program, this is not as minor as a problem as the Marine Corps public affairs office at New River indicates. The report states:

THIS IS A PROBLEM WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER SQUADRONS. IT IS APPARENT THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM IN THE MV-22 COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE 10TH REPORTED INSIDENT [sic] OF AN EAPS QD [Engine Air Particle Seperator Quick Disconnect] BACKING OFF. [emphasis is POGO's]

In February, the Naval Air Systems Command issued a notice that it is going to award Bell-Boeing, the V-22's contractor, a sole source contract "for the non-recurring development and recurring implementation of design solution in both production and retrofit for the V-22 Engine Air Particle Separator (EAPS)." This contract is intended to fix the problem.

The V-22's hydraulic problems are not new. According to the Defense Department Inspector General in 2002:

“The V-22 was produced with a less-than-optimal hydraulic system because the V-22 Program Manager (PMA-275) did not exercise sufficient oversight of the hydraulic system's design: PMA-275 did not specifically monitor the reliability rates of the hydraulic system's performance.”

 - reliability rates of the hydraulic system's performance.

The Star-Telegram's Bob Cox also reported:

A more serious nacelle fire occurred on a Marine MV-22 at New River in December. The Marines said that fire, which erupted moments after the plane landed, caused at least $1 million in damage to the aircraft.

That fire was caused when the titanium fitting on the hydraulic line failed and spurted fluid.

The aircraft has suffered other engine nacelle fires caused by leaking hydraulic fluid, including some that the Marines have not publicly acknowledged, according to internal Marine correspondence provided to the Star-Telegram.

POGO will continue monitoring the V-22 program. The GAO noted in a report last week that the "Design stability of Block B--the deployed configuration [of the V-22]--will be better known after its limited operational assessment in late 2007...A bearing defect has been found in some critical assemblies of production aircraft and is being addressed."

 - A bearing defect has been found in some critical assemblies of production aircraft and is being addressed.

-ends-

   ____________________________________

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_V-22_Osprey#bodyContent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_V-22_Osprey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

July 1992

On 20 July 1992, pre-production V-22 #4's right engine failed and caused the aircraft to drop into the Potomac River by Marine Corps Base Quantico with an audience of Department of Defense and industry officials.[8][9][10] Flammable liquids collected in the right nacelle and led to an engine fire and subsequent failure. All seven on board were killed and the V-22 fleet was grounded for 11 months following the accident.[1][11][12] A titanium firewall now protects the composite propshaft.[13]


April 2000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Marana_V-22_crash

 It descended faster than normal (over 2,000 ft/min or 10 m/s) from an
unusually high altitude with a forward speed of under 45 miles per hour (39 kn; 72 km/h) when it suddenly stalled its right rotor at 245 feet (75 m), rolled over, crashed, and exploded, killing all 19 on board.[14][15]
vortex ring state (VRS),


December 2000
On 11 December 2000, a V-22 had a flight control error and crashed near Jacksonville, North Carolina, killing all four aboard. 

A vibration-induced chafing from an adjacent wiring bundle caused a leak in the hydraulic line, which fed the primary side of the swashplate actuators to the right side rotor blade controls. 

The leak caused a Primary Flight Control System (PFCS) alert. 

A previously-undiscovered error in the aircraft's control software caused it to decelerate in response to each of the pilot's eight attempts to reset the software as a result of the PFCS alert. 

The uncontrollable aircraft fell 1,600 feet (490 m) and crashed in a forest. The wiring harnesses and hydraulic line routing in the nacelles were subsequently modified. This caused the Marine Corps to ground its fleet of eight V-22s, the second grounding in 2000.[1][17][18]


March 2006
A MV-22B experienced an uncommanded engine acceleration

Since the aircraft regulates power turbine speed with blade pitch, the reaction caused the aircraft to go airborne with the Torque Control Lever (TCL, or throttle) at idle. 

It was later found that a miswired cannon plug to one of the engine's two Full Authority Digital Engine Controls (FADEC) was the cause. The FADEC software was also modified to decrease the time needed for switching
between the redundant FADECs to eliminate the possibility of a similar mishap occurring in the future.[21]

The aircraft was found to be damaged beyond repair and stricken from Navy's list in July 2009.[22][23]


April 2010

The investigation found several factors that significantly contributed to the crash: these include low visibility, a poorly-executed approach, loss of situational awareness, and a high descent rate.[28]

Brig. Gen. Donald Harvel, board president of the first investigation into the crash, fingered the "unidentified contrails" during the last 17 seconds of flight as indications of engine troubles.[29] Harvel has become a critic
of the aircraft since his retirement and states that his retirement was placed on hold for two years to silence him from speaking publicly about his concerns about the aircraft's safety.[30] The actual causes of the crash may never be known because US military aircraft destroyed the wreckage and black box recorder.[31]


April 2012

An MV-22B belonging to 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, VMM-261 was participating in Exercise African Lion when it crashed near Tan-Tan and Agadir, Morocco, on 11 April 2012, killing two Marines. Two others were seriously injured, and the aircraft was lost.[33][34][35] 


June 2012

On 13 June 2012, a USAF CV-22B crashed at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida during training. All five aboard were injured;[38] two were released from the hospital shortly after.[39] The aircraft came to rest upside-down and received major damage.[40] The cause of the crash was determined to be pilot error [??], with the CV-22 flying through the proprotor wash of another aircraft.[41]


May 2015

An MV-22B Osprey participating in a training exercise at Bellows Air Force Station, Oahu, Hawaii, sustained a hard landing which killed two Marines and injured 20.[43] The aircraft sustained fuselage damage and a fire onboard.[44][45] The aircraft was determined to have suffered dust intake to the right engine, leading the Marine Corps to recommend improved air filters, and reduced allowed hover time in dust from 60 to 30 seconds.[46][47]


December 2016

August 2017

September 2017

March 2022
An MV-22B Osprey participating in NATO exercise Cold Response crashed in Gråtådalen, a valley in Beiarn, Norway on 18 March 2022, killing all four Marines onboard.[64][65][66] The crew were confirmed dead shortly after Norwegian authorities discovered the crash site.[67] Investigators concluded that the causal factor of the crash was pilot error due to low altitude steep bank angle maneuvers exceeding the aircraft's normal operating envelope.[68] Investigators noted that an unauthorized personal GoPro video camera was found at the crash site and was in use at the time of the crash. "Such devices are prohibited on grounds that they can incentivize risktaking and serve as a distraction; that may have been the case with Ghost 31," the report reads.[69]


June 2022

An MV-22B Osprey belonging to 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing crashed near Glamis, California, on 8 June 2022, killing all five Marines onboard. Among the fatalities was Captain John J. Sax, son of the former Major League Baseball player and LA Dodger Steve Sax.[70] The accident investigation determined that the crash was caused by a dual hard clutch engagement causing catastrophic malfunction of the aircraft's gearbox that lead to drive system failures.[71] From 2010 to the time of the crash, there had been 16 similar clutch issues on Marine Ospreys.[72] Initial reports erroneously claimed that nuclear material were onboard the aircraft at the time of the crash.[73][74][75]

 From 2010 to the time of the crash, there had been 16 similar clutch issues on Marine Ospreys.[72]


August 2023

A CV-22B Osprey assigned to the US Air Force's 353rd Special Operations Wing crashed into the East China Sea about one kilometer (0.6 mile) off Yakushima Island, Japan, on 29 November 2023, killing all eight airmen aboard. The Osprey, based at Yokota Air Base in Western Tokyo, was flying from Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni in Yamaguchi Prefecture to Kadena Air Base on Okinawa in clear weather and light winds. Witnesses reported seeing the aircraft flying inverted with flames engulfing the aircraft's left nacelle before an explosion occurred and the aircraft subsequently crashed in waters east of the island near Yakushima Airport. An Air Force investigation into the cause of the crash is ongoing.[78][79][80][81] Japan grounded its fleet of 14 Ospreys after the crash. The US Air Force grounded all of its CV-22 Ospreys one week later.[82] The US Navy and Marines grounded their fleets of V-22 Ospreys pending the outcome of the CV-22 investigation.[83]


Other accidents and notable incidents

July 2006
A V-22 experienced compressor stalls in its right engine in the middle of its first transatlantic flight
A week later it was announced that other V-22s had been having
compressor surges and stalls, and the Navy launched an investigation into it.[86]


December 2006
It was reported that a serious nacelle fire occurred on a Marine MV-22 at New River in December 2006.[87][88]


March 2007
A V-22 experienced a hydraulic leak that led to an engine-compartment fire before takeoff on 29 March 2007.[87]


November 2007
An MV-22 Osprey of VMMT-204 caught on fire during a training mission and was forced to make an emergency landing at Camp Lejeune on 6 November 2007. The fire, which started in one of the engine nacelles, caused significant aircraft damage, but no injuries.[89]

After an investigation, it was determined that a design flaw with the engine air particle separator (EAPS) caused it to jam in flight, causing a shock wave in the hydraulics system and subsequent leaks. Hydraulic
fluid leaked into the IR suppressors and was the cause of the nacelle fires. As a result, all Block A V-22 aircraft were placed under flight restrictions until modification kits could be installed. 


2009
An Air Force CV-22 suffered a Class A mishap with more than $1 million in damage during FY 2009. No details were released.[91]



July 2011
On 7 July 2011, an MV-22 crew chief from VMM-264 squadron fell nearly 200 feet (61 m) to his death in southwestern Afghanistan.[92]


October 2014
In early October 2014, an MV-22 Osprey lost power shortly after takeoff from the USS Makin Island. The aircraft splashed down in the Arabian Sea and was briefly partially submerged four feet (one metre) before the pilots regained control and landed on the carrier deck. One marine drowned after his life preserver failed to inflate when he bailed out of the aircraft. The accident was attributed to the aircraft being accidentally started in maintenance mode, which reduces engine power by a fifth.[93]


January 2017
On 29 January 2017, an MV-22 experienced a hard landing during the Yakla raid in Al Bayda, Yemen against Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula militants, causing two injuries to U.S. troops. The aircraft could not fly afterward and was destroyed by U.S. airstrikes.[94][95][3]

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If you're interested in some truth and have the appropriate classified access you should be able to find my vulnerability report via DTIC in the SURVIAC database with search terms of CV-22, vulnerability, OT&E, AFOTEC, 2008.

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I take my hat off to BGen Harvel for his moral stance in the face of unimaginable political pressure. Thank God for senior officers like him! Unfortunately there are very few in my experience. I wish I could've met him before he passed. Reading his book made me frustrated and angry because I have seen from the sidelines over a 20 year AF career a lot of what he experienced first hand. God bless him and his family!
I think most of his conclusions are correct. The only thing I question is his final assumption about the right proprotor clutch failure- certainly possible, but he didn't provide any evidence for that in his book, nor was that malfunction necessary for the ultimate mishap. He's spot on about the crew's instinct to dump fuel- dumping fuel in a low-power emergency was beaten into me from the beginning as an HH-3E copilot and I've done it on more than one occasion during emergencies since then. I'm a 20-year CSAR helicopter pilot and also a defense contractor senior engineer with extensive experience in turboshaft engine degradation due to salt ingestion as well as sand ingestion that can lead to compressor stalls. I have also served as the pilot member on a Class A mishap investigation team so I have some insight into what he went through. I've personally experienced compressor stalls and I think he was spot on in attributing a compressor stall as causal in this mishap. There's no getting around the fact that the pilots screwed up by attempting a landing with a significant tailwind, especially in a CV-22, but the mission pressure was undoubtedly intense and helmet fires were the norm- I'm sure the AC intended a goaround that in the last seconds proved impossible due to compressor stall(s) from degraded engines. I can feel it in my bones from the crew testimonies and from my own experience flying in that kind of horrible environment.
In 2007-2008, as a professional engineer, I was contracted to do a detailed engineering vulnerability analysis of the CV-22 in support of AFOTEC's upcoming IOT&E. My primary task was to research all the previous Bell Boeing vulnerability analyses and determine if they were valid (originally) and if they were suitable to the USAF-intended combat employment environment. My unclassified assessment was that the CV-22 was woefully inadequate for employment into combat. I was in the room the day that the IOT&E was briefed to the AFOTEC commander in late 2008 or early 2009 (can't remember exactly). I was the survivability SME sitting in the cheap seats while watching the AFSOC OT&E pilot desperately try to convince the AFOTEC/CC that the CV-22 was ready for prime time even though his powerpoint slides showed the truth of all the deficiencies in the weapon system. The air was so thick with tension you could cut it with a knife and everyone was sitting at the edge of their seats- it was a hostile briefing. It was obvious that the AFOTEC boss was sick and tired of dealing with this thing over the previous decades and just wanted it out of AFOTEC once and for all. The AFSOC OT&E pilot briefer, in my opinion, is the one most guilty of all for advancing this combat-unsuitable aircraft into operational deployment. There were, and still are, a stunningly massive number of guilty parties supporting the combat employment of this aircraft, but I think he was the worst- He had the opportunity to grow a spine and say the CV-22 was not combat capable yet he didn't; instead he defended it. During the briefing, he at least paused to suggest to the boss that I stand and elaborate on the newly-apparent vulnerability problems, but the boss slammed him for having even spent OT&E money to re-evaluate what Bell-Boeing had done years prior- He didn't want to hear it and I never had the chance to talk. But, the boss also mocked him for recommending fielding the CV-22 when his slides had so much red on them proving it was deficient. Shame on both of them- they both took the political party line and fielded something that although I know is a brilliant piece of technology that may have great civilian application, is entirely unsuitable to the combat mission. I have three sons joining the military and I hope and pray they will never have to fly in it, in either of its forms, the CV-22 or MV-22. If you're interested in some truth and have the appropriate classified access you should be able to find my vulnerability report via DTIC in the SURVIAC database with search terms of CV-22, vulnerability, OT&E, AFOTEC, 2008.


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